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	<title>Comments on: Ableton live vs logic pro for mixing indie music?</title>
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		<title>By: ALANA</title>
		<link>http://lowintensity.net/2008/11/ableton-live-vs-logic-pro-for-mixing-indie-music/comment-page-1/#comment-1073</link>
		<dc:creator>ALANA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 02:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, I'm have been going back and forth on which software to get to record an album.  Logic Pro vs. Live 8 Suite.  Or Logic Express vs. Live 8 or Live 7LE.  I like how Live lets you group your tracks into scenes.  Can Logic do anything to make exploring different arrangements of a song easily without sliding tracks around and making umpteen versions of the same song?  

Thanks for your help,

Alana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, I&#8217;m have been going back and forth on which software to get to record an album.  Logic Pro vs. Live 8 Suite.  Or Logic Express vs. Live 8 or Live 7LE.  I like how Live lets you group your tracks into scenes.  Can Logic do anything to make exploring different arrangements of a song easily without sliding tracks around and making umpteen versions of the same song?  </p>
<p>Thanks for your help,</p>
<p>Alana</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://lowintensity.net/2008/11/ableton-live-vs-logic-pro-for-mixing-indie-music/comment-page-1/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jakub : I'll amend my previous statement; I made the comparison without realizing that Logic Express 8 had more features than the previous versions of Logic Express that I was familiar with. It offers much better value now. 

However, I still feel that Logic Studio is better overall value (even at more than double the price), given all the stuff and flexibility it offers. But if you don't really need the flexibility or extras, Logic Express will work better for you (since it's more streamlined) and will be cheaper.

In all fairness, I still use Garageband sometimes (although not to mix), so you can still make great music with limited tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jakub : I&#8217;ll amend my previous statement; I made the comparison without realizing that Logic Express 8 had more features than the previous versions of Logic Express that I was familiar with. It offers much better value now. </p>
<p>However, I still feel that Logic Studio is better overall value (even at more than double the price), given all the stuff and flexibility it offers. But if you don&#8217;t really need the flexibility or extras, Logic Express will work better for you (since it&#8217;s more streamlined) and will be cheaper.</p>
<p>In all fairness, I still use Garageband sometimes (although not to mix), so you can still make great music with limited tools.</p>
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		<title>By: jakub</title>
		<link>http://lowintensity.net/2008/11/ableton-live-vs-logic-pro-for-mixing-indie-music/comment-page-1/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>jakub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must disagree with Sean in this point (but I like Keyofgrey!). Logic Express is GREAT step from GarageBand - originally I wanted just to expand GB with some better drum machine, then I have found that for bit more money (compared to iDrum) I may get Logic Express with amazing Ultrabeat drums, EXS sampler, lots of plugins etc. 
Difference between Studio and Express is surely huge for professionals, but for "hobby" musicians like me Express is far more than enough.
For brief comaparasion between LS and LE see http://logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=14183</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must disagree with Sean in this point (but I like Keyofgrey!). Logic Express is GREAT step from GarageBand - originally I wanted just to expand GB with some better drum machine, then I have found that for bit more money (compared to iDrum) I may get Logic Express with amazing Ultrabeat drums, EXS sampler, lots of plugins etc.<br />
Difference between Studio and Express is surely huge for professionals, but for &#8220;hobby&#8221; musicians like me Express is far more than enough.<br />
For brief comaparasion between LS and LE see <a href="http://logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=14183" rel="nofollow">http://logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=14183</a></p>
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		<title>By: jason ho</title>
		<link>http://lowintensity.net/2008/11/ableton-live-vs-logic-pro-for-mixing-indie-music/comment-page-1/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>jason ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey again Sean from &lt;a href="http://keyofgrey.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;keyofgrey.com&lt;/a&gt;! Must say you're quite the know-alot-of-deep-stuff in terms of music editing tools! About Logic express, sounds like it doesn't make too much an impact for editing. Maybe Jakub could have a go at this interesting mental sparring of minds.

By the way, which program do you use for editing music?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey again Sean from <a href="http://keyofgrey.com" rel="nofollow">keyofgrey.com</a>! Must say you&#8217;re quite the know-alot-of-deep-stuff in terms of music editing tools! About Logic express, sounds like it doesn&#8217;t make too much an impact for editing. Maybe Jakub could have a go at this interesting mental sparring of minds.</p>
<p>By the way, which program do you use for editing music?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://lowintensity.net/2008/11/ableton-live-vs-logic-pro-for-mixing-indie-music/comment-page-1/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jason Ho: You can get Logic Express off the Apple website directly. Both Logic Studio and Express are available with heavy educational discounts I believe. So if you are a student, or know someone who's a student, you can definitely get a good deal. 

I will be frank though, Logic Express isn't nearly as good a value proposition as Logic Studio. The reason why is that Logic Express has very few plug-ins or sample content. Basically Logic Express only allows you to record your music; there isn't much in the way of professional mixing or effects plugins. It's barely a step up from Garageband. If you are looking for cheap solutions to just record music, I would suggest looking at Reaper which can be had for very little money. If you're serious though, you should take the plunge with Protools 8, or Logic Studio (using a student discount of course). I was trying to get manufacturers to send me review versions of software so I could run a Protools/Cubase/Ableton/Logic comparison, but they weren't too receptive to the idea. When Ableton 8 comes out, I'll probably buy it and do a review on it though. Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jason Ho: You can get Logic Express off the Apple website directly. Both Logic Studio and Express are available with heavy educational discounts I believe. So if you are a student, or know someone who&#8217;s a student, you can definitely get a good deal. </p>
<p>I will be frank though, Logic Express isn&#8217;t nearly as good a value proposition as Logic Studio. The reason why is that Logic Express has very few plug-ins or sample content. Basically Logic Express only allows you to record your music; there isn&#8217;t much in the way of professional mixing or effects plugins. It&#8217;s barely a step up from Garageband. If you are looking for cheap solutions to just record music, I would suggest looking at Reaper which can be had for very little money. If you&#8217;re serious though, you should take the plunge with Protools 8, or Logic Studio (using a student discount of course). I was trying to get manufacturers to send me review versions of software so I could run a Protools/Cubase/Ableton/Logic comparison, but they weren&#8217;t too receptive to the idea. When Ableton 8 comes out, I&#8217;ll probably buy it and do a review on it though. Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: jason ho</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 02:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo Jakub! (is that kinda like Jacob in another lang?) Thanks for the input man, heard that guys that are looking for Logic but don't really wanna deep fry your wallet, there's a Logic Express! I might just check that out.

Any idea where you can get it from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo Jakub! (is that kinda like Jacob in another lang?) Thanks for the input man, heard that guys that are looking for Logic but don&#8217;t really wanna deep fry your wallet, there&#8217;s a Logic Express! I might just check that out.</p>
<p>Any idea where you can get it from?</p>
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		<title>By: jakub</title>
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		<dc:creator>jakub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking about Logic, there is also Logic Express version for half the price, it just lacks few plugins and support for some very expensive studio hardware - and it still has more features than you can ever explore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking about Logic, there is also Logic Express version for half the price, it just lacks few plugins and support for some very expensive studio hardware - and it still has more features than you can ever explore.</p>
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		<title>By: jason ho</title>
		<link>http://lowintensity.net/2008/11/ableton-live-vs-logic-pro-for-mixing-indie-music/comment-page-1/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>jason ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa! 

Thanks for the comment Sean, and I'll definitely check out your site for more ableton-pro info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa! </p>
<p>Thanks for the comment Sean, and I&#8217;ll definitely check out your site for more ableton-pro info.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey man, I just found your site while researching Ableton Live. I am both a Logic Pro and ProTools user. I find Logic Pro to be a great songwriting tool while ProTools is a great recording tool. If you have friends who are able to play all your instruments live, then ProTools will work fine for you. I realize that's not on your list, but I think it should be since it, and not Logic, is the industry standard. Since you have the FW410, which I also own, you can get the M-Powered version of Protools for around 300 dollars. It's not great, but you can take your Protools project to any studio in the world, and they'll be able to mix your project. If you want to take Logic, Cubase, Ableton or Sonar project anywhere else, you'll first have to bounce each individual track as a WAV or AIF format. BTW...you can do a lot with a FW410. I've recorded almost all my live instrument tracks with it, including movie soundtrack work. The quality is very good for the money.

If you are looking to heavily use a MIDI trigger for samples (ie. you can't afford a drummer, so you're going to use drum samples), Logic's built in library is a ridiculously good value for the price. Logic also has, as was mentioned above, fantastic mixing tools. Space Designer is my favorite software reverb unit, and some of the analog synths are great. I use to work at, then ended up running, a small studio, and I would write and record instruments in Logic, record the artist on Protools (since all the nice gear was hooked up to Protools and my Logic key was personal), and then bring the project back home to mix in Logic. It's a convoluted path, but it's what I found worked the best between the two software titles.

Ableton Live, especially in its latest iteration, seems like a powerful application. I don't have any experience with it, but all the material I read about it expounds its virtues as a tool for live performance. No doubt, it has great recording and mixing abilities but, for the money, Logic is built straight up for complete audio production. I do not have experience in Cubase, but at least two of my colleagues run successful small studio businesses with it and at least one was previously a Logic user (back when it was also available on PC).

I don't want to spam your site with personal links, but I run a website called Key of Grey that talks about these types of issues and you can easily find some information that might help you. Click on the Featured Articles button to skip to my editorials and advice. Let me tell you something I learned...people who like Logic can be crazy lol. I caught so much crap when I suggested that I might even try Protools 8 even though I'm a Logic user. Anyways, I realize you wrote this article a couple months ago, but I hope I was still useful. Good luck with your recording! Oh, and if you're worried about having to buy a Mac, you can always build a Hackintosh on the cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey man, I just found your site while researching Ableton Live. I am both a Logic Pro and ProTools user. I find Logic Pro to be a great songwriting tool while ProTools is a great recording tool. If you have friends who are able to play all your instruments live, then ProTools will work fine for you. I realize that&#8217;s not on your list, but I think it should be since it, and not Logic, is the industry standard. Since you have the FW410, which I also own, you can get the M-Powered version of Protools for around 300 dollars. It&#8217;s not great, but you can take your Protools project to any studio in the world, and they&#8217;ll be able to mix your project. If you want to take Logic, Cubase, Ableton or Sonar project anywhere else, you&#8217;ll first have to bounce each individual track as a WAV or AIF format. BTW&#8230;you can do a lot with a FW410. I&#8217;ve recorded almost all my live instrument tracks with it, including movie soundtrack work. The quality is very good for the money.</p>
<p>If you are looking to heavily use a MIDI trigger for samples (ie. you can&#8217;t afford a drummer, so you&#8217;re going to use drum samples), Logic&#8217;s built in library is a ridiculously good value for the price. Logic also has, as was mentioned above, fantastic mixing tools. Space Designer is my favorite software reverb unit, and some of the analog synths are great. I use to work at, then ended up running, a small studio, and I would write and record instruments in Logic, record the artist on Protools (since all the nice gear was hooked up to Protools and my Logic key was personal), and then bring the project back home to mix in Logic. It&#8217;s a convoluted path, but it&#8217;s what I found worked the best between the two software titles.</p>
<p>Ableton Live, especially in its latest iteration, seems like a powerful application. I don&#8217;t have any experience with it, but all the material I read about it expounds its virtues as a tool for live performance. No doubt, it has great recording and mixing abilities but, for the money, Logic is built straight up for complete audio production. I do not have experience in Cubase, but at least two of my colleagues run successful small studio businesses with it and at least one was previously a Logic user (back when it was also available on PC).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to spam your site with personal links, but I run a website called Key of Grey that talks about these types of issues and you can easily find some information that might help you. Click on the Featured Articles button to skip to my editorials and advice. Let me tell you something I learned&#8230;people who like Logic can be crazy lol. I caught so much crap when I suggested that I might even try Protools 8 even though I&#8217;m a Logic user. Anyways, I realize you wrote this article a couple months ago, but I hope I was still useful. Good luck with your recording! Oh, and if you&#8217;re worried about having to buy a Mac, you can always build a Hackintosh on the cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: jason ho</title>
		<link>http://lowintensity.net/2008/11/ableton-live-vs-logic-pro-for-mixing-indie-music/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>jason ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey dean, I nearly lost you at "Live comes with..." it's too much bingo-lingo over there. 

Anyway you do have a point about getting Logic for the purpose of recording an album (which I am) and since Low Intensity's music isn't going towards performing live with LIVE and a laptop, i do have to reconsider about getting LIVE right now.

I was looking at the full suite that has all the bells and whistles but don't really know how it's samples would fair in a head on battle with LOGIC.

Like what I wrote in the post, I'd prob still go ahead with LIVE since I'm already started skiing on the learning slope rather than starting from the foot in LOGIC.

Meantime, I'll do some research on Cubase. Yet no one really talks about Cubase. That can't be good...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey dean, I nearly lost you at &#8220;Live comes with&#8230;&#8221; it&#8217;s too much bingo-lingo over there. </p>
<p>Anyway you do have a point about getting Logic for the purpose of recording an album (which I am) and since Low Intensity&#8217;s music isn&#8217;t going towards performing live with LIVE and a laptop, i do have to reconsider about getting LIVE right now.</p>
<p>I was looking at the full suite that has all the bells and whistles but don&#8217;t really know how it&#8217;s samples would fair in a head on battle with LOGIC.</p>
<p>Like what I wrote in the post, I&#8217;d prob still go ahead with LIVE since I&#8217;m already started skiing on the learning slope rather than starting from the foot in LOGIC.</p>
<p>Meantime, I&#8217;ll do some research on Cubase. Yet no one really talks about Cubase. That can&#8217;t be good&#8230;</p>
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